There has been a valid point brought up that I want to make sure I clarify, since I cannot remember all the places I have clarified it. (Fibrofog is a bitch, so…blog post.) And I’m tired of repeating myself, so, huzzah, blog post.

In the Charles Michael Segaloff (Michael Makai) arrest and federal case, I’m not posting documents about the minor victim (even if they’re not sealed), and unless or until the adult girlfriend who was arrested as a material witness is prosecuted, I’m not posting documents specifically about her and not Segaloff.


The minor victim — uh, duh. MINOR. VICTIM. And most of those specific documents are sealed anyway.

The adult girlfriend — let’s clarify something. I in NO way excuse her behavior as it has been alleged in the court documents. Unless or until she is charged, however, because there are mentions about mental health issues (and even suicidality in one place) I’m not going to post those documents. You want to see them, there are links in the docket summary. Sign up for a PACER account yourself and look at them. (

Here’s where I’m verging into MY OPINION (and only my opinion): If Charles Manson can talk people into killing for him, why does it stretch the bounds of credulity to think that Segaloff might have more than one victim in this case? Again, I am NOT excusing or in any way saying that I think the adult girlfriend should escape prosecution. The exact opposite. If the evidence shows she is guilty, prosecute her.

HOWEVER, I refuse to participate in further victimizing someone who might, when more information comes out, turn out to also be a victim in this case. We don’t know yet, and that’s the point. She hasn’t been charged in the federal case (as of when I just looked tonight a little while ago and pulled the updated docket summary). She’s only listed as a material witness in this case, to date.

If/when she IS charged as a defendant? I’ll be posting all of those documents at that point.

The things that have allegedly already happened in this case are fairly heinous to begin with. I refuse to go after someone not currently listed in the federal case as a defendant. (Material witness is NOT the same as a defendant.) Just like I’m not posting unsubstantiated rumors or innuendo I see posted about the defendant. I’m sticking to the facts as we know them, and I’m taking the higher road. (I don’t even think I dropped an F-bomb in this post. Man, this fibro flare is kicking my everlovin’ ass right now.)

So…that’s why. Again, the docket summaries I pull from PACER have links to all the documents in them on the PACER site. Sign up and get an account if you’re curious and have at it.

Quick Note: Why I’m not posting certain documents in the Charles Michael Segaloff (Michael Makai) case.
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5 thoughts on “Quick Note: Why I’m not posting certain documents in the Charles Michael Segaloff (Michael Makai) case.

  • January 9, 2016 at 10:07 am

    After discussing this with my Sir last night, we both agreed with your opinion. If she does get charged with a crime, then yes, go after her. But until then, she could have been a victim just like the young girl was. I mean, how old was she when she met this jerk? I know I talked about this in some of your posts yesterday but I always like it when someone makes me think. I tend to spout off things without thinking sometimes and my Sir is working on that with me.

    • January 9, 2016 at 10:33 am

      No worries. And I get it why some people are wanting to string her up, too. I do. On the face of the allegations, it’s heinous. And if they press charges against her, absolutely I want her prosecuted. However, having seen the other side of what a predator and narcissist can do to a victim first-hand, I want the legal system to make the decision or not to charge her in this case. If they do, then yes, she’s fair game. It’s my understanding that locally she’s not charged with sex with a minor because of age of consent. Segaloff is the one who allegedly went to get her. We don’t know if there’s one victim here, or perhaps two. We don’t know what was said to her, or done to her, to get her to go along with this. So without all of those facts being known, my conscience rests a little easier taking the high road on this.

  • January 9, 2016 at 12:11 pm

    In the earliest news reports, wasn’t it reported that Grayson was arrested as well by local LEO? Aren’t the local charges still pending?

    If I am reading the timeline correctly, the Feds were first on this case. They got it from NY, after LEO there figured out the victim had been transported across state lines. The FBI then contacted local LEO in OK, and that lead to getting some help in tracking down the victim, Segaloff and Grayson, while they eluded cops for days.

    The initial charges were about harboring a runaway.

    But the Federal charges were already filed – and sealed – days before that arrest.

    Segaloff and Grason were already locked up when the FBI agents came to see them.

    Normally, you could check VineLink, or the Comanche County Detention Center roster.

    Were the local charges against Grayson dropped? She’s being held on a Federal matter. Usually that causes any process in the local charges to pause until the Federal process moves forward.

    • January 9, 2016 at 10:43 pm

      That timeline might be correct but I haven’t backtracked it. I don’t know what’s going on with the local charges, and Grayson is now released on bond (that motion to amend the terms was filed and signed yesterday). She has given grand jury testimony, according to info in those papers, so I don’t know what’s going on as to that. Yes, as far as I know, Segaloff is still in the Comanche County jail under a US Marshal hold pending trial.

  • February 26, 2016 at 4:36 am

    Any updates

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