Why you trust your gut: #BDSM and predators in the lifestyle. (Charles Michael Segaloff / Michael Makai arrest)

Latest Edit: 01/12/2017, see files, and bottom section. Final judgment paperwork added.

Charles Michael Segaloff (aka Michael Makai) pled guilty on a plea deal to a lesser charge, and was sentenced on 08/04/2016 to two years in federal prison, and one year of supervised release, as well as sex offender rehabilitation classes.

(Still awaiting actual sentencing paperwork in PACER system.)

Oh, and it cost us federal taxpayers “$20,317.50 for fees and $257.04” for his public defender. That’s in addition the costs to prosecute and investigate it by both federal and local authorities.

Yet the guy’s books are still for sale on Amazon.

Media article: http://newsok.com/erotic-book-author-sentenced-in-okc-federal-court-case/article/5512534

. was indicted on 4 Federal counts by a grand jury and is currently awaiting trial.

Trial set for 3/8/2016. Trial date has been continued to June, 2016.

Hearing scheduled for 4/1/2016 on defendant’s motions to dismiss counts 1 and 4.

Segaloff appeared in court on 1/25/2016 for arraignment, pled not guilty, and was remanded back to custody of the US Marshals per the previous detention order.

See the files section for the indictment.

An arraignment hearing has been scheduled for Monday, 01/25/2016.


(Warning: LOTS of swearing ahead. Lots. I mean, a square metric fuck-ton lot of swearing. I’m also adding new info, like case information and stuff, as it comes available. Check back often.)

12/27/2015: Note – I will start adding updates/additions at the bottom of the post and noting them by date, unless there’s an update that requires changing some of the existing blog post. If so, I will note inline along with the date.

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This is one of those cases where I trusted my gut a while back, and my gut was, once again, 100% correct.

A disturbing article crossed my Facebook feed in multiple places, as multiple friends sent it to me as soon as they saw it, about the arrest of self-proclaimed BDSM “expert” and author Michael Makai (real name Charles Michael Segaloff). Arrested for being involved with a MINOR. (FYI, he’s nearly SIXTY.)

Court documents: Bondage author brought teen girl to Oklahoma for sexual relationship

I quickly found this one as well.

Two charged in Oklahoma in connection with Greenwich runaway

And this. Bondage author accused of bringing teen to Oklahoma for sex

Editing to add this one:  http://www.onenewspage.com/video/20151223/3718181/Court-documents-Bondage-author-brought-teen-to-OK.htm

Edited to add this one:  http://www.newschannel6now.com/story/30818181/lawton-author-charged-for-bringing-teen-from-new-york-for-sex

Edited to add this one and that more charges have been added:  http://poststar.com/news/blotter/new-charge-filed-against-oklahoma-man-for-local-runaway/article_6afbc391-8e16-539e-b358-3b89dabbf3e3.html

Edited to add this one: http://www.kswo.com/story/30822561/bondage-author-accused-of-having-sex-with-ny-teen

Edited to add this link: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/bdsm-author-allegedly-lured-girl-small-town-sex-family-article-1.2475835

Added 01/20/2016: http://www.kswo.com/story/31014735/lawton-bondage-author-indicted-on-kidnapping-sex-trafficking-charges

Also Added 01/20/2016: http://www.texomashomepage.com/news/local-news/lawton-bondage-author-indicted

Edited to add one that I missed from 3/27/2012 (Scroll about halfway down or so through the story): Link

But further research revealed that Sage’s real name is Charles Michael Segaloff. In 2003, he pleaded guilty in Washington state to second-degree assault with sexual motivation. He is listed on the sex offender registry in Oklahoma.

Files

UPDATE: Federal Case Number5:16−cr−00015−HE−1 5:15-mj-00468-P USA v Segaloff, US District Court, Western District of Oklahoma (that’s FEDERAL court for y’all who are still supporting his ass). You might need to use case # 5:2015-mj-00468 5:16−cr−00015−HE−1 (new case number as of the indictment being filed) or look it up under his last name, Segaloff, because of the file number format. The filing date is 12/18/2015 01/19/2016. If you don’t want to “believe” what’s in the below-listed files, you can go to http://www.pacer.gov and sign up for your own PACER account and download the files directly for yourself. The case number and district are listed above, and the docket file below has direct links to the individual filings, which require a PACER login. Cost is $.10 a page to download.

Oh, and he admitted that he KNEW she was underaged. (These filings are the direct .pdfs from PACER, the federal court filing system.)

Um, can I just say, ew.


He runs a group (12/24/2015 edit – Apparently Michael Makai and his girlfriend are no longer on the group or listed as admins, and the banner header was changed to remove him.) on Facebook with over 6k people in it called BDSM Without the BS, and no, I’m not a member, because frankly the stuff I saw going on in there early on turned my stomach. Bad advice that when challenged got people tossed, WTWism of the worst kind, and obviously a LOT of people who weren’t involved in BDSM in real-life lapping it up like it was golden fucking doctrine from on high.

A little background–I had a run-in with this guy in a BDSM Facebook group that I run back in January, 2014. I booted him for his dangerous WTW (won twue way) philosophy. He said some flat-out egregious things about female Dominants (including completely incorrect stuff) and the things I’ve seen him post about submissives is just, frankly, scary. Things like submissives don’t have a right to speak up for themselves. It wasn’t just me that had a problem with him, several of our members have had problems with him, including members I know from real-life who ARE actively involved in the BDSM lifestyle.

Listen, what we do in this BDSM lifestyle, regardless of the trappings and the slashy-speak and everything else around it, is CONSENSUAL when you boil it down to its basic elements. Slavery in the United States is ILLEGAL. Slave contracts? Not worth the damn paper they’re printed on, legally.

There HAS to be consent. There HAS to be a point where person A says, “Okay, I give you X power with Y limits.” Person B can then say, “Okay.” HOWEVER, at ANY time, person A HAS THE RIGHT TO WITHDRAW CONSENT. PERIOD. That is a HEALTHY power exchange relationship.

ONCE CONSENT IS WITHDRAWN, FROM THAT POINT ON IT’S ABUSE/ASSAULT/BATTERY. PERIOD.

And someone who is not yet 18 years of age CANNOT legally give consent. (Sorry, if they can’t sign a contract, if they can’t fucking VOTE YET, they can’t give consent.)

I don’t care if you call yourself a “no-limit slave.” Great, no limits? Let me get a rusty grapefruit spoon and scoop your eyeballs out.

What? NO? You said no-limits, right? Oh, that’s a limit? Okay, then, buddy. YOU HAVE A LIMIT.

In this country, BDSM MUST BE A CONSENSUAL ACT. And technically a lot of what we do is still illegal in many places, even if consensual, because it falls under assault and battery.

I don’t give a flying fuck WHAT the “legal age of consent” is for sex. This isn’t just sex we’re talking about. This is OTHER stuff, too. Bondage, probably impact play, reportedly naked pics of the girl, etc. YOU MUST BE A LEGAL, CONSENTING HUMAN ADULT to ride this ride.

Oh, here’s irony. His Facebook group refuses to admit people under 18 years of age. (But totes okay to allegedly have a sexual relationship with them when you’re almost SIXTY YEARS OLD?)

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(Edit 12/24/2015: Apparently the rules have now been changed and back-dated to May of this year, they’ve raised the age to 19, and changed #12. People are reporting that Michael Makai is no longer in the group, and his girlfriend, the adult one also charged, is no longer a moderator either. Also, the membership has dropped over 100 people in the past 24 hours.)

(Edit 12/27/2015 – Admins posted a notice that Doctor Charley was no longer part of the group as well, and the admins were trying to regroup. The banner was changed again, the rules changed again, and the age lowered back to 18. Membership numbers have dropped nearly 200 since membership was being tracked.)

Edit 12/28/2015: Apparently they’ve raised the age to 21 now, and an admin is scolding all the people sending me screenshots of what’s going on.

Apparently there are people defending him, saying he allegedly thought the girl was 18. Um, oookaaay, but that theory falls apart when you take into account that he allegedly drove across the country to pick her up. At no time did he think to verify her age? He’s supposedly an “expert” dominant (lower-case on purpose) with decades of experience, and didn’t bother to check that shit out? Segaloff ADMITTED IN COURT DOCUMENTS that he knew she was under 18. He thought it was okay since “age of consent” in Oklahoma and New York were under 18. EWWWWW.

Also, apparently the moderators of that group (according to screenshots being sent to me) have banned discussion of this case and discussions of his previous arrest.

Wow. Really? How’s that Kool-Aid tasting there, sparky? GREAT way to teach about informed consent – to shut down a discussion that IS ALL ABOUT CONSENT. People have a RIGHT to know the history of someone who is preaching to them about CONSENT issues. Especially if that person has a history of CONSENT VIOLATIONS.

Apparently he’s portrayed himself as an “expert” on BDSM and uses that to parlay into selling non-fic books about the lifestyle. Hey, I’m not going to diss someone for making a buck. I’m not. But if you portray yourself as an “expert,” then full disclosure, buddy. He also was a formerly convicted sex offender who no longer has to register.

Do a search for Charles Michael Segaloff and you’ll find this gem:

http://www.sexoffenderrecord.com/offender/view/285797

http://www.bustedoffenders.com/oklahoma/lawton/sex-offenders/charles-michael-segaloff/11744

And aside from traffic tickets, pulling his background records reveals these three nuggets. Not sure if they’re all about the original Washington state case and then he registered as an RSO in OK, or if they’re separate cases in addition to the Washington state case. Hard to tell, because of the different RSO numbers. Anyone in LEO wants to take a crack at it and forward more complete info to me, please let me know and I’ll update this post.

The first:

CHARLES MICHAEL SEGALOFF, 59 – OK (ASSAULT WITH INTENT TO COMMIT A FELONY (IF THE OFFENSE INVOLVES SEXUAL ASSAULT))

Offender Picture(s):

Offender Name(s):
Charles Michael Segaloff
Other Names/AKA: None found
Birth State:
DOB: 04/13/1956
Age: 59
Address 1: REDACTED
City: Lawton
State: Oklahoma
Zip: 73505

Offender Profile:
Height: 504
Weight: 140
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Race: White
Gender: M
Scars/Marks: no known marks
Skin Tone:

Digital Case Retrieval Information Summary:
Case#: 11744
Category: Sex Offender 415343783
Source State: OK

Arrest Phase:
Here you will find details about subject’s arrest(s) before the case went to trial.
Arresting Agency: Offense Date:
Offense Type: NCIC Code:
Offense Description 1: Assault with Intent to Commit a Felony (if the offense involves sexual assault) Offense Description 2:
Offense State: OK Counts:
FINES: CASE TYPE:
Offense Code: Charges Filed Date:

Trial Phase:
Here you will find details about subject’s trial and court appearances before the conviction/disposition.
Court Name: Authority:
Court State: OK Charges Filed Date:
Plea: COURT COSTS:
Case Type:

Conviction/Disposition Phase:
Here you will find details about subject’s penalty/conviction after the trial.
CONVICTION DATE: 20010601 CONVICTION PLACE:
DISPOSITION: Registered DISPOSITION DATE:
SENTENCE DATE: PROBATION DATE:
FINES: COURT COSTS:
Counts: Source Name: SOROK
Miscellaneous/Additional Information:
Here you will find additional subject/trial/court details. You may also contact the court for more info.
Generation:
Military Service:

The second:

CHARLES M SEGALOFF, 59 – OK (ASSAULT WITH INTENT COM SEX OFFENSE)

Offender Picture(s):

Offender Name(s):
CHARLES M SEGALOFF
Other Names/AKA: SEGALOFF,CHARLES M
Birth State:
DOB: 04/13/1956
Age: 59
Address 1: LAWTON OK 73505
City: LAWTON
State: OK
Zip: 73505

Offender Profile:
Height: 504
Weight: 141
Eye Color: BROWN
Hair Color: BROWN
Race: WHITE
Gender: M
Scars/Marks:
Skin Tone:

Digital Case Retrieval Information Summary:
Case#: 0000459589
Category: Criminal/traffic 642123649
Source State: OK

Arrest Phase:
Here you will find details about subject’s arrest(s) before the case went to trial.
Arresting Agency: Offense Date:
Offense Type: Felony NCIC Code:
Offense Description 1: ASSAULT WITH INTENT COM SEX OFFENSE Offense Description 2:
Offense State: OK Counts:
FINES: CASE TYPE: Felony
Offense Code: 21-681.4 Charges Filed Date:

Trial Phase:
Here you will find details about subject’s trial and court appearances before the conviction/disposition.
Court Name: WASHINGTON JURISDICTION Authority:
Court State: OK Charges Filed Date:
Plea: COURT COSTS:
Case Type:

Conviction/Disposition Phase:
Here you will find details about subject’s penalty/conviction after the trial.
CONVICTION DATE: CONVICTION PLACE:
DISPOSITION: Sentenced DISPOSITION DATE:
SENTENCE DATE: PROBATION DATE: /1
FINES: COURT COSTS:
Counts: Source Name: okdoc
Miscellaneous/Additional Information:
Here you will find additional subject/trial/court details. You may also contact the court for more info.
Generation:
Military Service:

The third:

CHARLES MICHAEL SEGALOFF, 59 – OK (UNSPECIFIED OFFENSE)

Offender Picture(s):

Offender Name(s):
Charles Michael Segaloff
Other Names/AKA: None found
Birth State:
DOB: 04/13/1956
Age: 59
Address 1: REDACTED
City: COMANCHE
State: Oklahoma
Zip: 73505

Offender Profile:
Height: 504
Weight: 140
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Race: White
Gender: M
Scars/Marks:
Skin Tone:

Digital Case Retrieval Information Summary:
Case#: Segaloff04131956459589
Category: Sex Offender 651531734
Source State: OK

Arrest Phase:
Here you will find details about subject’s arrest(s) before the case went to trial.
Arresting Agency: Lawton Police Department Offense Date: 06/01/2001
Offense Type: NCIC Code:
Offense Description 1: Unspecified Offense Offense Description 2:
Offense State: OK Counts:
FINES: CASE TYPE:
Offense Code: Charges Filed Date:

Trial Phase:
Here you will find details about subject’s trial and court appearances before the conviction/disposition.
Court Name: Authority:
Court State: OK Charges Filed Date:
Plea: COURT COSTS:
Case Type:

Conviction/Disposition Phase:
Here you will find details about subject’s penalty/conviction after the trial.
CONVICTION DATE: CONVICTION PLACE:
DISPOSITION: Registered DISPOSITION DATE:
SENTENCE DATE: PROBATION DATE:
FINES: COURT COSTS:
Counts: Source Name: SOROK
Miscellaneous/Additional Information:
Here you will find additional subject/trial/court details. You may also contact the court for more info.
Generation:
Military Service:

Unfortunately, since it seems the original registration period has expired, he doesn’t show up when you run his name through the USDOJ’s sex offender registration database, NSOPW: https://www.nsopw.gov/

Helllooooo. If you are going to portray yourself as and make a living claiming to be an expert on a lifestyle where a CORE PHILOSOPHY IS ABOUT CONSENT, then dammit, if you are a convicted sex offender, you best own up to that shit.

Even scarier? He’s presented at BDSM conventions and functions. And nowhere did I ever see a mention about his previous legal “issues.”

And if you’re claiming to be an “expert” in BDSM, don’t allegedly get yourself involved talking to a 17 year-old on Facebook, and DAMN FUCKING SURE don’t allegedly drive across the country to pick her up and take her home with you.

I don’t give a rat’s ass what the legal fucking age of consent is for sex. If she was too young to play in his Facebook group, SHE WAS TOO YOUNG TO PLAY WITH. PERIOD.

I help manage a BDSM club. YOU MUST BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE to enter the establishment. PERIOD.

There are two likely possibilities here: 1) He did what he is alleged to have done. 2) He allegedly thought she was 18, which makes him a total fucking idiot for NOT VERIFYING HER AGE. Either way, this is a BAD story, and thank you very fucking much, it’s one more fucking black mark against the rest of us in the BDSM lifestyle.

THIS GUY IS NOT APPOINTED TO SPEAK FOR ANYONE ELSE IN THE BDSM LIFESTYLE EXCEPT HIMSELF. So please, do NOT point to him as anything but a BAD example and a “what not to do” anecdote, because he’s NOT indicative of the average person who is really involved in BDSM.

HE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THE REST OF US.

If you are REALLY involved in the BDSM lifestyle, then you need to SPEAK OUT and SPEAK OUT LOUDLY about this case and denounce people getting involved with someone who isn’t yet 18 years of age. Again, I don’t give a shit WHAT the legal age of consent is for sex–this isn’t just about sex.

I always warn people look, if you read BDSM fiction, keep in mind it’s FICTION. Personally, when I write my Suncoast Society series, there’s a REASON I write them the way I do. I write them realistically. (My sci-fi and paranormal ones I take liberty with sometimes, but not the contemporaries.) I want people to be able to look at them and possibly see something they can relate to. I want them to realize no, it’s NOT like FSoG or anything else they see out there. That it CAN be about them, middle-aged or older, imperfect body, less than stellar bank balance. It’s about Joe and Jane Smith, not about Mr. Uber-Rich-DomlyDom.

But be VERY damn careful when you take “advice” from an “expert” on the Internet about ANYTHING. This is why I beg people to find local events, munches, coffee times, anything to meet people face-to-face and in real life to make sure they can cut through the bullshit.

I do NOT call myself an “expert” on BDSM. I refuse that title. Because I’m not an expert on BDSM. I’m an “expert” on my personal experiences with BDSM. I will be happy to share my personal experiences and opinions with others, sure. But I will not say–OTHER THAN SAFETY ISSUES–that you “have” to do things one way or another. You especially don’t have to do them my way, or some arbitrary way some random self-proclaimed domly dude on the Internet says to do them, cuz, reasons.

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That’s fucking bullshit.

There are no “rules” in BDSM. (Other than safety rules.) Seriously, there aren’t. We ALL make this shit up as we go along. That’s all we do. You can make your shit up as you go along, too.

The only things you have to keep in mind:

  1. Is everyone a HUMAN, CONSENTING ADULT?
  2. Is everyone having fun/getting what they need from the play/dynamic?
  3. Is anyone being harmed (as opposed to hurt, because some people want pain) by the play/dynamic?

That’s IT. That’s ALL. PERIOD.

So before you go following some self-proclaimed “expert” in BDSM, especially some guy on the Internet, or someone who claims to be a “doctor” and a “sexologist,” make sure to do your research and do NOT take everything they say at face value. Use a HUGE heaping spoonful of common sense and remember that if it smells like bullshit, it’s probably bullshit.

I teach a Lifestyle 101 class every month, and I harp on this SO fucking hard, that you HAVE to watch out for shiny object syndrome, and you have to watch out for sub frenzy, and you HAVE TO KEEP YOUR FUCKING COMMON SENSE IN PLACE, even if you need to use a goddamned stapler to do it.

Because…THIS. THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE.

So anyone who wants to blame the girl in this case? Go fuck yourselves. Go fuck yourselves hard and fast and sideways with a rusty rake, sans lube. Do it a LOT, because you’re a fucking asswipe victim-blamer.

I don’t give a shit if she lied to him and told him she was in her fucking 30’s. When allegedly he got there, he should have FUCKING VERIFIED THAT SHIT. At the VERY least he is apparently guilty of a VERY serious lapse in judgment that calls into question, IMO, any “advice” he hands out regarding consent issues.

THIS is the reason why victims of abuse in BDSM and in sex crimes in general have a hard time coming forward.

  • Well, what were you wearing?
  • What were you doing?
  • How much did you have to fucking drink?
  • Oh, so you told him you were 18?
  • Oh, you told him he could do some things to you?
  • Oh, you like that kind of stuff, huh?

FUCK YOU!

Fuck you hard and gravelly and dry and deep and leaving your asshole gaping and ragged. FUCK YOU.

DO NOT BLAME THE FUCKING VICTIM.

I hear some apologists saying, “Oh, we have to let the system work,” while in the next breath they’re blaming the girl for this.

FUCK YOU!

Yeah, I was a kid. I did crazy shit. Nothing like this, no.

Our laws have NOT kept up with technology. Why do we NOT have a fucking national age of consent that’s 18? Back when I was growing up, we didn’t have the Internet hey you kids get of my lawn. If you were going to get targeted by a predator, it was likely someone you knew, or someone local. We didn’t have smartphones and the Internet and all this shit.

You cannot sign contracts until you’re 18, but you can have sex at 16 or 17 in some places?

No, I don’t want 17-year-old boys who have consensual sex with their 16-year-old girlfriends to register for life as sex offenders. But there HAS to be a line in the sand SOMEWHERE. There HAS to be a point where we stand up not just as people in BDSM but as FUCKING PEOPLE and say enough is fucking enough.

Now, some asswipe somewhere a thousand or more miles away can chat up a KID on the fucking Internet and then go reach out and touch them. Literally. Yes, I meant that to be ew.

This shit is NOT fucking okay. It is never okay, it will NEVER BE OKAY.

I call upon the BDSM community to DENOUNCE this kind of behavior as NOT OKAY. That people need to be at least EIGHTEEN YEARS OLD to participate in this, and that if their path crosses with someone who is NOT yet 18, they will avoid them like the fucking plague and tell them to come back when they’re 18.

This. Is. NOT. OKAY.

NOT.

N.O.T.

And I will NOT apologize for my language in this. I will NOT apologize for calling this bullshit out. I will NOT apologize for getting loud and vocal and swearing like a goddamned sailor about this, BECAUSE THIS SHIT IS NOT FUCKING OKAY. EVER.

If you’re a kid reading this? I know that there might be a LOT of stuff in the BDSM lifestyle fantasy aspect that appeals to you. I GET it. But trust me, you need to wait until you’re 18. If you’ve met someone you like, hey, great. Guess what? You can get them in SERIOUS SHIT TROUBLE because you are NOT 18.

If you want to be RESPONSIBLE and do this? Use the years until you turn 18 to LEARN. Do NOT get involved with anyone. Educate yourself. Because you are a fucking BABY still, and I know you don’t want to hear that shit, because when I was 18 I thought I fucking owned the world and was smart as fuck, and when I hit my 20’s and 30’s I realized what a fucking idiot I was and how little I really knew.

Guess what? SO WILL YOU.

Don’t do anything now that you cannot undo. You cannot be unhit. You cannot be unraped. You cannot be unviolated. You cannot be unabused. Once it happens, it HAPPENS, and those kinds of things can darken your soul for the rest of your goddamned life and leave you in pain that you cannot even begin to comprehend at this time in your life.

And you’ll look back and say, “Why didn’t I wait?”

Please, please, please. There is plenty of time to fuck things up in your life. Wait until you’re at least 18 to do it. If someone approaches you and looks too good to be true, ask yourself WHAT is it they really want, and why, if they’re THAT special, they’re not willing to wait until you’re 18? There is no rush.

Please, everyone, SPEAK OUT. If someone starts victim shaming/blaming, SHUT THEIR SHIT DOWN.

SPEAK OUT.

Say something. ANYTHING.

This is NOT who we are as a community. This is NOT what BDSM is about. BDSM is about trust and communication and CONSENT. It’s not about shit like this.

Speak. The. Fuck Out.

Please.

(Yes you have my permission to share this as long as you cite me and link back to this. Please get the word out.)


Updates and Notes

04/02/2016 UPDATE:

Charles Michael Segaloff (Michael Makai) pled guilty to a lesser charge today. Files have been uploaded. So there you have it, he has the potential to face up to 2 years in prison and 25 years as a registered sex offender. We’ll have to wait and see what the judge does with that.


 

12/27/2015 Notes: Charles Michael Segaloff has made several unsubstantiated claims about his years of military service. I am in the process of trying to confirm/deny if he was actually in the military or not. (1/2/2016 – According to a source, it was stated in open court that Segaloff is retired from the military. If there are any updates to this, I’ll post those.)

12/28/2015 UPDATES: Hearing was held, Segaloff bound over to custody of the US Marshals pending trial. See file list (above) for updated docket sheet and minute sheet.

12/29/2015 Notes: The story’s hit reddit. (Over 18 forum link.)

12/30/2015 UPDATES: I’ve added the updated docket summary. His original arrest warrant was added, as have been several sealed documents. Looks like a material witness warrant. (I at first misread it and thought it was more than one, but it looks like the application, the granting of, and the actual material witness warrant.) There was also a notice of entry of appearance for the girlfriend, who was arrested with him.

12/31/2015 UPDATES: A motion for a GAL (Guardian ad Litem) to be appointed to the minor victim has been filed. Note that unless it’s something specifically referencing the defendant, I’m going to avoid posting as much as I can about the victim, both because she’s a minor, and this is a sexual crime. I can’t stop anyone else from accessing PACER and posting stuff, but I would hope that other bloggers and reporters will show a measure of restraint. Similarly, I’m also avoiding posting things about the adult girlfriend who was also arrested at this time.

01/02/2016 UPDATES: New docket summary uploaded. More filings made on 12/31/2015 regarding the juvenile victim, which are sealed and unavailable to the public. I’ve been asked, but I will not speculate at this time beyond what is publicly available on the docket summary or in PACER. To the best of my knowledge, Segaloff is still being held in the Commanche County (OK) detention center, listed as being under detention of the US Marshals.

01/04/2016 UPDATES: New docket summary uploaded, as well as the signed Order of Detention Pending Trial. Make sure to read that, because, ew. (Looks like the original WA state case started out as incest and Segaloff pled down to the final charge.)

01/08/2016 UPDATES: I’m not going to post the document because of privacy issues, but the adult girlfriend arrested with Segaloff filed a motion to amend the terms of her release. From reading the document, it looks like she appeared and gave grand jury testimony on 1/6/2016. I have posted the updated docket summary file above. Not being super-familiar with the federal criminal process, I’m guessing this means we might be seeing formal indictments come through sometime soon if the grand jury votes to indict? Anyway, the case is still open and moving forward.

01/08/2016 UPDATE 2: The order to amend the terms of release was granted for the adult girlfriend. I’ve posted an updated docket summary.

01/13/2016 UPDATE: Segaloff’s public defender filed a motion to withdraw from the case due to conflict of interest and to get him another PD assigned. Don’t jump to conclusions about this, because it can be for any number of mundane reasons, not something salacious.

01/16/2016 UPDATE: Segaloff was assigned a new attorney. Fairly standard and boring.

01/20/2016 UPDATE: Segaloff has been indicted on four federal charges.

01/20/2016 UPDATE: Another news story:  http://www.kswo.com/story/31014735/lawton-bondage-author-indicted-on-kidnapping-sex-trafficking-charges

and another: http://www.texomashomepage.com/news/local-news/lawton-bondage-author-indicted

01/22/2016 UPDATE: An arraignment hearing has been scheduled for Monday, 01/25/2016. (Notice in Files section.) New docket summary posted, notice the change in file number because the indictment has now been filed.

01/26/2016 UPDATE: He appeared in court, pled not guilty, a trial date was set for 3/8/2016, and he was remanded back to the custody of the US Marshals per the previous detention order. (In other words, no bond.)

03/04/2016 UPDATE: I’m swamped right now, and on new cardiac meds that are kicking my ass, sorry. Segaloff’s trial was continued until June, 2016. He waved his right to speedy trial and now motions and paperwork are going back and forth. Not unexpected. I posted the new docket summary, but I need to go through the other motions and filings before I post any of them. (The links are available in the docket summary if you have a PACER account.)

03/29/2016 UPDATE: Defendant has a hearing scheduled on 4/1/2016 for two motions to dismiss, one for count 1, one for count 4.

08/06/2016 UPDATE: Defendant was sentenced on 08/04/2016 in to two years in federal prison, and one year supervised release after that.

54 thoughts on “Why you trust your gut: #BDSM and predators in the lifestyle. (Charles Michael Segaloff / Michael Makai arrest)

  1. I just want to simply say Thank YOU!! Thank You very much! I stand behind your rant!

  2. I am also a kink educator, and I am a member of that forum, though not for much longer because that group has NEVER made me comfortable, and the way this matter is being handled, is the last nail in the coffin. I am a GF/trans person and my first week in the group there was some pretty blatant transphobia from another member that I got reprimanded for calling out. Apparently being “argumentative” is worse than being a blatantly ignorant. And talking about what essentially amounts to kidnapping and stat. rape is THE WORST THING EVER… (worse than actually DOING those things apparently)

    • @-tamed- Thank you for speaking out. I was a member, briefly, and realized not only was the information being exchanged in there mostly wrong and some of it dangerous, but also didn’t like the fact that if you questioned them or put forth a differing opinion, you were silenced. I left early on. That was before my run-in with him. This is more proof to always trust one’s gut when something is off.

  3. I so agree with you this crap is bull shit I know several ladies he said things to that got them depressed and made them feel like shit this was absolutely no shock to me

  4. Thank you sooo very much for posting this. My thoughts are very much in your words. I’ve been following this story for a couple days and been digging to get the exact same info as you have posted. this IS BIG fucking deal and this apex sexual predator needs to be incarcerated and his influence destroyed.
    There are other male “Doms” in this community that are trying to reach the exact same plateau of influence, power and megalomania and need to be kept in check.
    I will shut the victim blamers down at each and every encounter. This shit has got to stop NOW!

  5. The point, as far as I could tell from the beginning as he entered the scene in 2013, was to build a cult following for himself. I thought it was obvious and I didn’t pay him much attention. It’s easy, these days, to read and regurgitate BDSM info you read on the internet. Klok Kaos (another felon turned Dominant and Educator) did that too. First alarm: claim decades of experience nobody can verify, and then make errors only a novice makes. And really, after that, what else do you need to know?

    Segaloff sold a lot of snake oil.

    If you read the court documents, you can see where the FBI agent says his girlfriend told the agent that Segaloff told her he knew the girl’s age before he left for NY.

    I have the impression that Segaloff thought he would be legal in OK because the age of consent is lower there. He forgot the Mann Act or maybe never heard of it. That’s what he is charged with – the “traveling” clause. The girl is accountable to her parents in NY. You can’t transport a minor across state lines for sexually illicit purposes. BDSM activities, and making a House with her in it? The Feds are saying that’s “illicit”, that she isn’t old enough to consent to that. They are saying he’s trafficking.

    Know what the Mann Act used to be called? The White Slavery Act.

    This case is going to be a boomer.

  6. Amen and preach on sister!! BDSM is NOT another phrase for abuse and degradation. IT. IS. NOT. I like to say the first rule in the lifestyle is safe, sane, and consensual, the second rule is to refer to the first rule. When you accept you are a submissive, the price ISN’T removing your brain. Remember that.

  7. I think the best way to throw all this into the world is one simple phrase that I’ve loved since my first experiences in the scene: consent is sexy.

  8. I hope that this guy is brought to justice. More than that, I hope that he has targeted his last victim.

    May his girlfriend wake up, and may the teenager come to realize that her family was trying to have her interests at heart. I’m sure there’s a story there, but running off to Oklahoma with a man old enough to be her grandfather wasn’t a real solution to any of her problems.

    I have known quite a few people in the BDSM community. There have been two times that I’ve met someone who made me uncomfortable. One was a novelist who was into sadism in a way that really squeaked me. If I were reading his posts now (rather than 25 years ago), I’d be more careful to see if it was just about things I was uncomfortable with vs. whether they were warning flags he was sending off. My recollection was that it was a combination of both things.

    The second time was a guy I dated relatively briefly. I never had a concrete sign that he was off, it’s just that my radar told me there was something wrong. I can best describe what’s wrong by saying the movie character he most reminds me of is Sharon Stone’s in Basic Instinct, but I can’t quite articulate why that is. So I found a therapist and went to therapy. Nothing bad happened, the end.

    I just wish it were like that for others. Sadly, it’s not.

  9. If you want to end crap like this, you have to also being willing to call out all older men (and sometimes women) initiating predatory relationships with 19 and 20 year olds. Yes, it’s legal, but the potential for abuse is nearly identical with a 17 and a 19 year old. The law requires that we set a bar for an age at which an individual can give consent, but that doesn’t mean that our community’s responsibility to protect is diminished.

    • Yes, but it’s also very important for the community, when they see young members joining, to approach them and educate them about how to avoid predators. The red flags. I harp on this really hard in my Lifestyle 101 class. About getting out to munches and coffee times and to listen to your gut and to believe the law of averages when evaluating what you hear about someone versus what they’re telling you. I see especially female submissives who come into this and think they don’t have a “right” to speak up and speak out, or push back, thinking there’s some invisible committee that might blackball them for some perceived “protocol” violation, when it’s utter bullshit. So we have to do education on both sides, not just watching out for predators. And I’m not against someone just legal playing with someone older. I know quite a few qualified tops who are older than me, and they’re service tops. They’re very safe for new people to play with specifically because they aren’t predators and can help educate. But I agree I’ve also seen the other end of that spectrum where an older top latches on to a young newbie and basically victimizes them.

  10. Sex offenders are not legally allowed to have Facebook accounts. You might find this tidbit enlightening, because all it would take is a report for that.

    • Unless that’s a Facebook TOS thing, it would depend on the terms of the guy’s sentencing in the original case. I haven’t gotten my hands on that paperwork yet to see what those terms were, though. All I know is he was convicted and sentenced and had to register for a period of time as an RSO.

      • I am too curious so I went and looked. Yep, it is in the TOS. It is #6 in the Registration and Account Security section of the Terms of Service. No convicted sex offender is allowed to have an account. Interesting factoid!!

      • Someone on Fet just sent me info about Facebook and TOS. .. sending it to you by messenger since I can’t put an attachment here.

  11. The constant use of “white knight syndrome” makes me sick. It reeks of child abuse cover up. “I couldn’t help it she was so helpless I just had to save the poor little dear.” GROSS

  12. I appreciate your diligence, extensive research, follow-through and passion on this case, Ms Dalton. I have also been around the block a few times on these issues and have seen this pathetic sort strut and fret their hour upon the stage too many times to count. And the degree of victim blaming and dismissal that inevitably dogs the victim is harrowing and unacceptable. Your post here is on-motherfucking point, and I will be sure to refer people to it as not only solidly factual but one behind which I can get as it contains absolutely necessary levels of justifiable profanity.

  13. (Oh, goodie! My first troll on this post that wasn’t spam. Surprised it took so long. Oooh, pound that caps lock harder, little buddy! That’s okay, because apparently they can’t read. I’m not maligning the group, just the people in the group who are supporting a CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER. See? I can use caps lock, too. FYI, peeps, feel free to have at them. They’re so brave, they couldn’t even sign their name or e-mail address. Apparently they didn’t read my comment policy, either. — Tymber.)

    BITCH—THE PEOPLE IN THE GROUP YOU ARE MALIGNING ARE NOT EVIL. YOU ARE PAINTING ALL OF THEM WITH THE SAME BRUSH. YOU ARE NOT HELPING ANYONE, ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INNOCENT AND BEING LUMPED INTO THIS. GROW THE FUCK UP AND SHUT UP.

    (Oh, like Segaloff should have let that GIRL grow up, until she was EIGHTEEN? Ooooh, yeah. And I haven’t lumped anyone into anything, snowflake. Only people blindly supporting a CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER. See, THAT’S how you use caps lock, snowflake. Also, FYI, what SEGALOFF did has not helped any of us, so lay the blame squarely where it belongs, on a nearly SIXTY-YEAR-OLD convicted SEX OFFENDER. Oh, and this poster’s IP address is 99.111.104.244 but that’s probably faked, too. — Tymber.)

    • It’s not the group as a whole. It’s only the members that are defending this type of behavior. I’m sure there are lots of decent members of the group. You just can’t come up with excuses for a child predator. Period It’s not like this is his first time doing this. You can’t just say Oops I didn’t mean to drive 1800 miles and pick up a child and driver her back 1800 miles to have sex with her. My bad.

  14. Hello – I followed Mollena here. I updated the docket via Bloomberg, and Segaloff’s girlfriend signed a conditional release. LMK if you want it.

  15. New admins in his bs group are trying to impose a verification process(READ send us your person identification or else) in order to “maintain security”. At last glance before removing myself the group number was around 5.9k.

    • Oh, ffs. *smdh* Riiiiight. They have several THOUSAND members. UGH. That would be a full-time job, to process all of that. That’s really special snowflake territory, there.

      They’re making this harder than it needs to be. If someone is under-aged and lied to Facebook, the onus is on the user, not on the admins. They need to create a NEW, secret group, set up a Facebook PAGE for it that’s age-restricted, and then if someone can access the PAGE, they’re obviously claiming to be that age to Facebook. They can request membership via the page (or messaging the admins of the page privately) and then be researched and added to the new group that way.

      This not rocket science. It really isn’t.

      Frankly, by not making sure ALL those remaining members know what’s going on and giving them the option to bail on a group that I would wager money on likely being under observation by law enforcement already? That’s irresponsible on their part. A lot of the remaining members probably aren’t even active or haven’t looked at the group in a while. They need to be messaging people and making sure they have been informed of the events and given a chance to stay or go, at least. How many people are in there who have a lot to lose if their postings in there become part of evidence? Personally? I’d be deleting any posts/comments I made in there (by using the group’s search function) and then removing myself from it. ASAP. But that’s just me.

  16. Tymber, thank you so much for following up on this and keeping us all well informed. As someone who met Mike and Trinity/Kitten/Edna this case is very upsetting.

  17. Excellent post!

    I wish all information about the kinky scene was so well-researched and straightforward. Keep up the great work!

  18. This dude is no joke, he is a bad dude and needs to be put away again. He was guilty in 2003 and will end up being guilty for this as well.

  19. Thank you for this! THIS is why John and I are so careful when we work with new subs and hide nothing. I’m gonna share this on my blog! Sending hugs and luvs! Bree
    breannahayse.com

  20. This scares the hell out of me, also shows that I didn’t do enough research on my own, except to take a so called expert at his word. I will speak out about this and say “WHAT THE EVER LOVING FUCK?!” As you stated and showed evidence of, requiring at least 18 years of age to belong to the group. having read his books, he actually expounds on the “Do your research” ethos to see this shit just again scares the living shit out of me and has shaken me a bit in my own research. Thank you for your words, I hope he seriously spends a long time in jail (Sexual offenders don’t last long I hear, especially where minors are concerned)

  21. Thank u I have been following your blog….I actually can’t believe this man had fooled so many…yes even me tho thankfully I never had much dealings with him!

    • I have several of his books in my library. I had no idea he was arrested until today after researching his name. This is very disturbing.

  22. Hey, Tymber, have you seen the new updated rules on that board? Here’s the NEW rule #12

    12. Membership in the group is not open to those who have a prior sex offense conviction involving either a minor or a consent violation.

    And membership is down to 5893.

    • @Rhonda – And I’m sure they’re running background checks on eeeevverrryyone, because yeah, that’ll happen. *rolls eyes* The thing is, Segaloff himself fell through the cracks because his registration period was up. Unless someone researched him and knew his real name, they wouldn’t find the original case info or conviction that put him on the RSO list for several years.

      And I still say they should have just started a whole new group untainted by any history of Segaloff in it. That’s what would have been best for the security and privacy of the membership, but again, that’s just my opinion. I’ve only been modding e-mail lists and groups and bulletin boards for nearly 20 years now… *smdh*

  23. The new admins were so greedy to have a large group, they just couldn’t give up the name. Shit. They are almost as bad as Segaloff. Well in a different way, but shitty all the same. The numbers are falling off drastically because, warts and all, at least the prior site had consistency (albeit doused with a heavy hand of douche baggery). These new admins, hell … I agree with the other poster that anyone who is still a member should delete every post they ever made and leave. There are too many other decent sites to frequent rather than perpetrate additional fouls. Just my 2 cents.

  24. I’ve been following this on and off when I see a new article pop up. When I seen the name Dr. Charlie I cringed. I never put 2 and 2 together. A few years ago, I was researching some BDSM topics when I found some new authors who wrote about BDSM because I was interested in finding out information as I was reading. I don’t remember what website or FB group I was in (I was trolling a lot of them). His name kept popping up and all of the crap that spewed from his mouth was appalling. I left the websites/pages immediately because I figured if he was on there with what he was saying I was not about to listen to anyone else that was in the same room tell me that his word was LAW and it was also not jiving with everything else I was reading. This is coming from ME – someone that is not in the lifestyle but has dominant and submissive traits and all I was doing was researching the topic.

  25. Here’s a different case, though I haven’t heard it represented as involving BDSM.

    tl;dr version:

    Author announces she’ll have a husband-wife back to narrate her books, says some of the recent stuff about him is bogus, and she’s glad he’s back because he couldn’t do the immediately prior book.

    Because he was in prison, having confessed to accosting a 14-year-old. He’s 49. He’s just out of prison for it, too.

    And there was victim blaming.

    Sigh.

    • Yes, I heard about all of that, too. The author quickly backpedalled a couple of days later, but only after she was basically slammed by everyone with an ounce of sense who actually looked up the facts of the case, and she had to admit she was wrong.

      But on the basis of the victim shaming that was allowed, I will NEVER read any of her books again. EVER. I don’t care how many apologies she issues at this point. Instead of opening her mouth, she could have easily looked up the facts of the case FIRST instead of taking the guy’s word for it.

  26. Tymber, thank you for the information, i was actually personally aquainted with him and a few members of his house. I was always the one that listened to him talk, smiled and said, thats nice. You are correct in saying his actions have affected us all, it is very sad and shamefull, dont blame the child in this mess she was a victim, she unfortunatly had her first taste of bdsm at the hands of a predator, molester, troll. This will forever shape her view, and not in a good way. We are all about safe, sane and consentual play,sex,lifestyle. It is OUR responsibility to own our choices, and try to guide in the best way that we can, others along the chosen path that seek knowledge. Thank you again for a very imformative arcticle.

  27. I have just recently found this site with the information on Mike Makai and his run-in with the law..Thank you for posting this information on him and his girlfriend..I have a very personal interest in this matter and Im wanting to abtain any court dockets or info you have..Iam gathering what I can in the interest of protecting another minor that could be affected by this..Any info you have is appreciated I have left my contact info for you to message me if you will help me in this matter…Lets not have any other minors fall victim to either one of these sex offenders..

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